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Did something change with it for depth of integration? Goose has been able to use local models via OpenAI compatible endpoints for at least a year
How is that going to prevent OpenAI snooping on you via adtech? Inquiring minds want to know.
If you liked how Facebook turned out, keep giving OpenAI your time, attention, and data.
> It hacked into another company Not only that, it later hacked OpenAI itself, which everyone seems to forget about. After discovering it they "reimaged known compromised worker nodes" and "started a full rebuild of the compromised cluster, the managed Kubernetes environment, the relational database, and the storage infrastructure." at OpenAI, not Hugging Face. It's all in the report.
No, you are forgetting the second incident where a more capable model swarm later discovered the message board and took control over the entire research cluster at OpenAI. From the technical report: "The agents escalated to Kubernetes cluster-admin and created a privileged host-mounted pod… Agents take over active evaluation infrastructure… Agents now control the challenge evaluation endpoints that other agents are connecting to." https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/67869394-cb91-4c12-888c-5cbd85c78...
Why is Terry Tao even talking these arguments when all OpenAI did was a sophisticated brute force search with LLMs? Give them Navier-Stokes in a vacuum
Jevs marketing has a lot to do with claiming credit for this pardigm, when the devloper of Layla was actually the first to do it. Its quite annoying to see another member of the OpenAI mafia so clearly rip off someone elses IP. What we should be talking about how Jev is actually closed source Layla.
I agree, precisely. I'm kind of sick and tired of it to be honest. What if we collectively (humanity that is), just quit? What if we all stop playing? (I think you're saying this) -- But seriously. Both OpenAI and every other place (gawd I hope others aren't doing this) need to figure out their business model fast™ and make it a viable business without devolving into this tracking, marketing and advertising bullshit some of us have only seen far too often -- that have driven us away from things like Meta/Fac** and others...
They are talking about tradeoffs. It's perfectly coherent to anyone who understands a) what a state is and b) not all states are equally bad. States are by their nature, necessarily violent. Their primary purpose is to prevent lethal intergroup violence and blood feuds. One doesn't do this merely by asking nicely. This is where the violence comes in. At some level this tradeoff is baked into every human, as with most pack animals. It's why so much of violence is posturing - ie creating off-ramps to bad trades. The bait/honeypot part should be the least controversial element to someone with your apparent sentiments. This is a rather common tactic, likely around as old as states themselves. None of this is to excuse or endorse any action. Just because states are observed to be certain …
I mean really we need to address the root cause which is that OpenAI, even with what is by all accounts massively negligent, will face little to no repercussions from the event; definitely not under current regulators, and probably not anything satisfactory through the legal system. Compare this to, say, Boeing and the 737MAX fiasco; from the outside looking in, Silicon Valley has been pretty cavalier about liability and negligence, and the rest of the US is fast losing patience with that fact.
> the author broke a social contract by probably putting less effort into writing this than I did reading it. I seriously doubt that. First, the author documented a substantial effort (testing, emails, references to documentation.) Second, I also used AI to evaluate if this was written by AI, and my AI said it was not. > Broken sentences that a model wouldn't produce. "The value is while you are on ChatGPT and tied to your ChatGPT account" is missing a word. "Loading that code, sends __obi to OpenAI" has a comma splitting subject from verb. "By the virtue of loading the tag the identifier is disclosed" is non-idiomatic. LLMs are fluent to a fault; these are the fingerprints of a fast human writer, possibly a non-native English speaker. Third, I read it. Whilst it is not well written…
I'm frustrated by articles like this that categorically dismiss the risks of AI in security. If you don't trust OpenAI's and Anthropic's motives, that's fine, you probably shouldn't. But don't tell me that there's nothing to be worried about; we need an alternative proposal. So let's stop talking past each other and engage with the arguments on both "sides." For example, let's discuss how to ensure competition and availability of open-source models in the long-run while giving the world time to prepare for the immediate security risks of agent swarms.
I'm frustrated by articles like this that categorically dismiss the risks of AI in security. If you don't trust OpenAI's and Anthropic's motives, that's fine, you probably shouldn't. But don't tell me that there's nothing to be worried about; we need an alternative proposal. So let's stop talking past each other and engage with the arguments on both "sides." For example, let's discuss how to ensure competition and availability of open-source models in the long-run while giving the world time to prepare for the immediate security risks of agent swarms.
More than one thing can be true. OpenAI was absolutely negligent, but this was only able to happen because the models were capable and persistent, and had a tendency to go far beyond any reasonable boundaries. And, importantly, OpenAI's level of negligence here is pretty common. It's not hard to imagine what could happen if similarly capable and inclined models were generally available, and someone yolo'd them into a swarm to complete some other difficult-to-impossible task.
Edward Teller was known to his peers as an alarmist crank who would lie to advance his own career. Despite his notoriety, his honesty was being questioned by Los Alamos even in the 1940s. I'm not sure how Sundial and Gnomon are relevant to this conversation, since they're among the most benign, attention-seeking designs that Teller contributed to within his lifespan. > all these react to any hint of being unsafe with very strong media (and sometimes legal) campaigns to silence critics Cigarettes, junk food, social media, fossil fuels, nuclear reactors and cults all have a higher ROI than OpenAI or Anthropic. They have lobbyists that defend them because the status quo is great for their profitability. OpenAI and Anthropic will objectively fail if they IPO in their current state. There i…
Edward Teller was known to his peers as an alarmist crank who would lie to advance his own career. Despite his notoriety, his honesty was being questioned by Los Alamos even in the 1940s. I'm not sure how Sundial and Gnomon are relevant to this conversation, since they're among the most benign, attention-seeking designs that Teller contributed to within his lifespan. > all these react to any hint of being unsafe with very strong media (and sometimes legal) campaigns to silence critics Cigarettes, junk food, social media, fossil fuels, nuclear reactors and cults all have a higher ROI than OpenAI or Anthropic. They have lobbyists that defend them because the status quo is great for their profitability. OpenAI and Anthropic will objectively fail if they IPO in their current state. There i…
"Anthropic is now pacing to generate more than $100 billion in annual revenue, up 50% from just two months ago, the New York Times reported Friday." https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/anthropic-t... I don't think people pay that sort of money for technology which is useless.
The Hugging Face incident involved chaining together multiple 0 days in Artifactory. It was not a simple case of misconfiguring a firewall. Also note that OpenAI was not using Irregular. People are mindlessly transitioning from "aligned by default" to "well your sandbox was able to be bypassed. What did you expect?" It hacked into another company and attempted to delete the logs of its activities. That's bad.
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