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I mean, I interpreted the comments to mean that it committed a felony based on research it performed after getting internet access. I don't want to attribute much agency to a machine here, but an AI agent is certainly capable of using tools and adjusting its behavior based on the outputs of those tools. Even if it was wrong, that wouldn't necessarily make it a hallucination. Anyway, if you read TFA, you'd see that HF did actually have the answers: "While the intrusion did reach Hugging Face's internal infrastructure, the only customer content accessed was the set of ExploitGym/CyberGym challenge solutions stored in five datasets."
Yes, something I read just before it was released suggested that, because of the unique features of the model, there was a back and forth of Hugging Face, Moonshot and providers like Together AI and Fireworks AI. This also explained why it took much less than a day for Together, Fireworks etc to appear. Whatever they are doing is what Moonshot wants, I think.
Yes, something I read just before it was released suggested that, because of the unique features of the model, there was a back and forth of Hugging Face, Moonshot and providers like Together AI and Fireworks AI. This also explained why it took much less than a day for Together, Fireworks etc to appear. Whatever they are doing is what Moonshot wants, I think.
As tools I see no real issue, as agents seem readily able to coordinate and work alongside people, using these same tools. Same for the other forges. The offerings differ but there's vastly more isomorphism, sameness than difference. What seems much harder to me is the coordination model at large, that we stick forever with one source of all authority who is the sole owner arbitrator and gate for all things. In corporate maybe that keeps going and that is a huge huge bulk of sw dev. But I think we have so much more potency & capability, that a single coherent frontier for the software is an organizational constraint that won't be the only means forever. Letting ideas bake and marinate and cross pollinate and fork... With such vast new capability & power I feel like a single tip or one or …
By the way I just read about OpenAI model breaking into Hugging Face and it used "cat /proc/self/mountinfo" to collect information about third-party sandbox it wanted to break from [1]. So my intuition that these files should not be accessible to the sandboxed program, was correct. [1] https://huggingface.co/blog/agent-intrusion-technical-timeli...
> Moonshot AI, one of the Chinese startups included in the study, recently unveiled Kimi K3—one of the strongest open models to date—and publicly released its model weights through Hugging Face today . ...today? (emphasis is mine) And the author was so excited that decided to write up a paper and submit it to Science all in one day? Yeah, right. That's all you need to know who is moonshooting behind this paper.
Yes. I'd say I started to notice it 2 or 3 weeks ago. It began before Opus 5 was released, Opus 4.8 started taking a lot longer for simple responses. I switched to Opus 5 the day it was released and it's the same, seems to take a longer than it ever did, but I suppose Anthropic's user base is still increasing exponentially, maybe they're starting to spread their compute too thin across all the requests.
I'm not talking about a specific incident. But I wouldn't consider frontier labs any wolf, honestly. They're mostly just insufferable. I prefer Anthropic's models, but their service is starting to annoy me, especially since they have no response to OpenAI's upcoming faster inference speeds.
I've seen this Boris Cherny make similar claims of "oh, just do this or that", and I've always been of the opinion: "isn't this what everyone is paying Anthropic to do?".
> Frontier AI feels like its full of people who are brilliant at making models, but when it comes to scale and practicality, they just leave it to whoever sets up infrastructure to worry about. The idea that people in 10+ frontier labs (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, Alibaba, Z.ai, DeepSeek, xAI, Amazon, etc) in a trillion dollars industry are all dumb is frankly, hilarious.
Anthropic and OpenAI have proven themselves to be aspiring monopolists through their positions and actions. Why would you want to share your research with them?
I generally like it still. It describes their failure modes pretty well, and in a way that most people already recognize. They're incomparably more complex, of course, but they are not intelligent and they are very much repeating what they've seen without any capability for factual accuracy. Practically every other attempt at describing them leans too technical and unfamiliar (stochastic parrot) or too anthropomorphic (even describing them as "not like a human" gets people thinking in terms of humans, like how if I mention that your tongue is in your mouth all the time, using up almost all of the room, feeling your teeth and tasting itself, you're now uncomfortably aware of it and the numerous bumps on the surface). You need to work from a reference that has both a shared understanding, a…
> That and avoiding openAI and Anthropic copying our results and leaving us with nothing to show for six months of work. Isn't the POINT of publishing research because you want others to copy it?
> I doubt that the government would try to hinder any western AI companies. Compare and contrast https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access
Since anthropic gives you 35x and openai 70x of the api rate in tokens, you could surely call that ROI just not the type they want for their IPO
I've been at two startups that have done genuine world first fundamental research. The first tried to publish novel results for 3 years in tier 1 journals before finally doing a preprint and telling the tier one publishers to jump in a fire. The second, and ongoing, isn't publishing anything because of my experience with the first. That and avoiding openAI and Anthropic copying our results and leaving us with nothing to show for six months of work. The papers only come with the pitch deck.
You'd have to ask Anthropic or OpenAI, but I've seen probably more than a dozen reports of it happening. You also risk getting your account banned for discussing certain risky things in chemistry, biochemistry, weapons, conflict, terrorism/history of guerilla warfare. I imagine that within Anthropic and OpenAI there is a huge data set of "big no no!" topics that they maintain and continually add to. For alignment training and for more blunt purposes. For instance ChatGPT 3.5 could be instructed, as satire, to write a press release in the style of the English language propganda arm of ISIS but they put a stop to that fairly quick.
OpenAI and Anthropic are identified in the article and study as top publishers of AI research papers.
John Jumper and the rest of the AlphaFold core team left for Anthropic a while ago. And of course Hassabis is handling larger AI efforts at Google. So it was only a matter of time before the effort fell apart.
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