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I think both can be true - they're losing money on the API and they're still charging too much. Which is really where the music stops for American AI investment. I also use K3 now and its perfectly capable for the development work I'm doing. I don't shed any tears for OpenAI or Anthropic.
I think both can be true - they're losing money on the API and they're still charging too much. Which is really where the music stops for American AI investment. I also use K3 now and its perfectly capable for the development work I'm doing. I don't shed any tears for OpenAI or Anthropic.
I think what is going on here is that OpenAI are employing price differentiation to capture more of the market. The captive API customers are already there. There are bunch of potential customers that are price sensitive and are at openrouter. This move allows them to capture more of the market and increase profits (yes, they might be increasing profits at this level)
Not sure if you're serious but a) all HN data is publicly downloadable and used by frontier labs and b) the origin of OpenAI tracks down to former YC CEO sama who was thereafter fired from YC
Agreed I’ve seen what they’re paying at work for the OpenAI API but I also think that includes reserved capacity and ZDR O_o. Try some add on credits next time if you can. I was curious at how far $20 would go (500 credits). Watched them go to zero over an hour and assumed it’d stop. It then ran for another 6 hours and completed the task despite the meter at 0. What a task means is very unclear but it’s definitely not pricing sol at $20/500 credits an hr in tokens.
> still valuable to historians or people interested in local history. Apparently not valuable enough that they could be arsed to save a copy from Anthropic's greedy grubby hands even after DECADES of head start.
Or maybe they weren't allowed to do anything effective. I don't know why you give OpenAI such a big benefit of the doubt.
I work for a large enterprise and fable/mythos are specifically banned because of the difference in data retention agreements from those models to other Anthropic models.
I don't have experience directly with Anthropic, but I wouldn't assume anything with such high confidence without knowing the persons situation. No, an individual off the street or with an LLC and 5 employees isn't going to get a special deal from someone like Anthropic. But if their employer is bringing millions of dollars of potential spend to the table, can tell you from years of experience that turns a lot of 'no's' to 'yes'.
Sure, but as the article points out, had it not been for the change of heart, Xenix light could have been something like Coherent. Having learnt UNIX on Xenix, I know how expensive it was, we had a single tower that the teacher carried on into class, while we in groups of 2 students had about 15 minutes time slots to try out our applications that we prepared on MS-DOS ahead of time with Turbo C 2.0.
OpenRouter is the evidence that yes. Its just that the idea is dumb. What you are seeing in VCs salving their own money, buying their investment out with the money they out into more successful ventures. Look at how the same pools of capital sit on multiple sides of the market: the router, the payment layer, and the model providers... Its all the same club Investor ---- Economic Overlap --------------------------------------------------------- Andreessen - OpenRouter, Stripe, OpenAI, Mistral, xAI Sequoia - OpenRouter, Stripe, OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI CapitalG - OpenRouter, Stripe, Google/Alphabet MenloVentures - OpenRouter, Anthropic NVentures - OpenRouter, OpenAI, Anthropic, Mistral AMP PBC - OpenRouter, Anthropic
> I don’t think that a glitzy marketing campaign with a positive spin (which some have advocated that Anthropic do) is the way to win back that trust — at this point, saying that AI will cure cancer is more a cliche than it is inspiring, and most people think it is deceptive. The thing that will work is actually curing cancer. Then, proceeds at promising it again, without delivering. Amazing. > We are however doing our best to fix this: Anthropic is ramping up its efforts very quickly in biology and medicine, and we hope to have incredible results in the coming years and some early glimmers in the coming months. When we’ve actually accomplished something real, the whole world will hear about it, as loudly as possible, you have my word on that.
My aim was to turn my ramblings into something more coherent. No more. No less. I have made longer notes using exactly the process you prescribe, but that wasn't necessary for me in this case as it wasn't the most complex of ideas - I just regenerated until it gave me a fair approximation of what I wanted. And to be fair - even if I had given it follow-up guidance it would still have the LLM "smell". It would receive EXACTLY the same treatment from the anti-llm crowd. Thats pretty much one of the core points of the post (judging the medium ahead of the content).
Architecture is secondary right now. How Anthropic cleaned up the datasets for training and tuned the alignment - that's the real engineering magic. OpenAI came up with GPT, but Anthropic turned it into a fully functional tool for engineers
They said they also block usage of Claude models to build ML models. Which is definitely protecting their turf, but also probably a little bit hiding their “RSI” abilities for competitive reasons. My theory is that a lot of “safety blocking” is actually WIP training of new business directions. Anthropic has started hiring biologists and has opened a preview of a “Claude code for bioinformatics”. I’m guessing they’re tweaking their bioinformatics market play, and block “bio safety” requests so competitors can’t learn about their training.
5. Absolut democracy is available at the liquor store in various flavors, but has negarive long-term health effects. I'd be happy with a sane system of taxation supporting a coherent budget.
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